"somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote in message news:4a2e2473$1@news.povray.org...
> It's been posted earlier I think.

I had a quick look.. but couldn't find anything.

> OK, I understand that freeloading generation sees any industry that 
> actually
> manufactures stuff as evil and all that, but this is by far the weakest
> argument I've seen. What next, the book jacket police? Editorial police?
> It's rather hypocritical that the same people asking for lawlessness when 
> it
> comes to protecting intellectual property so they can benefit freely from
> other people's works are the very same people who want actual producers to
> be handtied and drowned in legislature.

> This coming from the very same people who keep stealing the very thing 
> they
> badmouth is not convincing. If it's rubbish, don't buy it. Speak with yout
> wallet. But more importantly, don't steal it - that's a sincere form of
> flattery. Again, supreme hypocricy.

> If a movie makes 50 million a weekend, you can call it rubbish all you 
> want
> atop your high horse, but it shows people see value in it, and are willing
> to pay for their enjoyment. Fortunately, you cannot legislate taste or 
> force
> yours on everybody else. Someone sells something, someone else buys it, 
> what
> is it to you? Of course unless you are a closet fan but too cheap or
> embarrassed to get in on the action through normal/legal channels.

First thing, it's not stealing. But I'm not going into that discussion here.
If I read between the lines you accuse me of downloading the work.
Maybe I do, maybe I don't. That's beside the point. Where did I say I
was pro-download? Nowhere.

I say that they earn those $50M because they are allowed to hype their 
product
in a way that we have laws againts for other products.
Taste has nothing to do with it. You have yours, and I have mine. I am 
saying
that their delivered product should live up to what they promise.

And I also have to object to that you put $==Value. How many of those
went out of the cinema and swore they would burn the movie company to the
ground? Your figure doesn't really say what people thought of the movie, 
only
what was reported by the box office.

Now, I know what you are going to say.. So let me explain something.
As being a fairly creative person, I can appriciate work without actually 
liking it.
Take Hendrix, for instance. I can't say I ever listened to him neither liked 
it very
much, but I can appriciate him for being a good guitar player.
The same goes for movies. There are alot of directors that I have respect 
for, without
that I actually like their movies. Ingmar Bergman, for instance. Can't stand 
the movies.
But I can respect his work since he has added something to the art.
And I can watch atleast parts of the movies to try to understand his 
technique.

So, what I ask (again) is that the product, in this case the movie, lives up 
to what
was promised me in the trailer. Not to much to ask for, right?
Sure, I might not like it, but that's life. But if you market a movie for 
being the baddest,
most scary and evil movie of all times, you'd expect some chilling moments, 
wouldn't you?

> Internet is the supreme platform for user reviews (you though I was going 
> to
> say stealing, right?).

No I wasn't.

> Every Joe and Jane and their dog posts their opinions
> for every single thing under the sun, so even if you don't care for
> professional reviews, there's absolutely no excuse nowadays to feign
> ignorance about the wealth of information available. It seems that the 
> more
> information is available, the louder the whiners get about being kept in 
> the
> dark by the "evil media". Those theater and opera goers of centuries past
> who had but just immediate friends and a couple of "mainstream" (hence 
> evil,
> by definition) newsprints available for reviews would cringe at the 
> thought
> of internet generation complaining that media companies are keeping them 
> in
> the dark. If you are concerned about wasting your time and money, just 
> wait
> *1 day* after a movie is screened for deity's sake - it won't kill you,
> trust me.

Of course not. And of course a first hand review by someone that really was 
there
should give you a fair picture of what it was like. I agree. But how does 
that give the Industry the right to lie? Or perhaps lie is a strong word. I 
prefer hype in the very most negative of meanings.

> I see that, but you need more consistent arguments and/or pick your fight
> more wisely and one at a time.

I'm glad you are here to tell me these things.

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